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Flopzilla Tutorial on Floating

** UPDATE 10/28/2016: I have now done a more complete solution for this hand. Check out my GTO strategy solution. **

In a recent twitch stream, a viewer expressed surprise that I floated the flop with only Ace high. I runner-runner’ed a flush to crack the villain’s pocket Aces. Luck-box?

Maybe.

But there is method to my madness. This loose flop call is actually pretty standard. In fact, if you’re not calling this wide, then you’re probably folding too much.

In this video, I give a quick Flopzilla tutorial and show you how to figure out a reasonable calling range given typical assumptions.

You can break this technique down into the following steps.

  1. We enter our own range on the left side of the poker tool.
  2. We enter the flop cards.
  3. We calculate the minimum defence frequency based on the c-bet size.
  4. We estimate how wide we must defend based on this frequency

Pros and Cons of this Flopzilla Technique

In the comments for this youtube, a wise viewer emphasized that this technique is flawed. He said that it can be ok to “get exploited” by folding “too much” in certain situations. And he’s absolutely right. If villain is WAY ahead of us, then we should be folding with a high frequency.

So it is of course important to consider our opponent’s range and how hard he hits the board relative to us. You will often find when in the big blind, on a very wide range, that it will be difficult, even unrealistic, to defend with a 1-alpha frequency (that’s the fancy name for the technique in the video).

However, it is also true that player’s often fold too much on dry boards. This technique should help you see why.

Enter GTO

I also mention in the video that you can do this same exercise with GTO solvers. And it is in fact a far more accurate approach since you are including the villain’s range as well.

The challenge there is that the tools are relatively expensive for Flop analysis (compared to Flopzilla) and require more expertise.

However I do personally own a license for the Simple Postflop GTO solver. If there is enough interest (tell me in the comments!) then I’d be willing to demonstrate this same problem using the GTO tool and can share my findings.

7 Comments
  • Adam Murphy
    October 23, 2016 at 12:41 pm

    Really great video, this is something I’ve been thinking about a lot recently and will definitely do some out-of-game analysis on this now.

  • Mario Rossi
    October 25, 2016 at 12:49 am

    Excellent video. It would be great if you did the same exercise with a GTO solver….Thanks

  • Tom Fazio
    October 29, 2016 at 8:32 am

    Not to be picky but I think when you switch to analyzing heros holding to looking at heros range you may have done the analysis of our range with our holding still entered as dead cards excuse me if in incorrect

  • s.k.
    December 16, 2016 at 3:41 am

    hello Mike

    you say we dont want to fold more than 33% vs his 1/2pot cbet. How do we justify this percentage?

    thanx in advance

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